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, that wednesday's debate was certainly a big win for mitt romney, hands down. but observers are still criticizing him, actually, about not giving enough details. so, i want to read to you what a conservative columnist for "new york times" said right after the debate. romney had his share of lines and the stinctions he drew between romney care and obama care and didn't say anything about helping the uninsured. how do you respond to that? is it time for romney to give more specifics? is he having a problem with that? >> easy to criticize both of them for not giving enough specifics. romney has a 59-point economic plan that most people have never looked at. i would say that is probably too specific. i think mitt romney should focus on saying things like, mr. president, we are, you seem to have a problem with profits, which my company made. but most americans have a problem with deficits, which you've rung up four consecutive trillion dollar deficits. they both have a little problem with details. but there is a big, i would strike a big contrast if i was mitt romne
, that wednesday's debate was certainly a big win for mitt romney, hands down. but observers are still criticizing him, actually, about not giving enough details. so, i want to read to you what a conservative columnist for "new york times" said right after the debate. romney had his share of lines and the stinctions he drew between romney care and obama care and didn't say anything about helping the uninsured. how do you respond to that? is it time for romney to give more specifics?...
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romney is up right. >> here barack obama is dropping his focus. he's beginning to drop away from mitt romney. and here he comes down to his paper. >> reporter: she says president obama dropped his posture often, especially late in the debate. that was a signal to many viewers that romney got the better of him. brian todd, cnn, washington. >>> a sharp drop in the jobless rate. what does it mean for president obama and the economy? that's the power of human resources. the society... for human resource management and its members know... how to harness that power, because we help develop it. from the next economy, to the next generation, we help get... the most out of business, by getting the best out of people. shrm. leading people, leading organizations. >>> it's not an october surprise, but certainly some welcome news for the obama white house, waging what has been an uphill battle against unemployment. this week the labor department reported the jobless rate fell sharply in september to 7.8%. that's the same level it was when president obama took
romney is up right. >> here barack obama is dropping his focus. he's beginning to drop away from mitt romney. and here he comes down to his paper. >> reporter: she says president obama dropped his posture often, especially late in the debate. that was a signal to many viewers that romney got the better of him. brian todd, cnn, washington. >>> a sharp drop in the jobless rate. what does it mean for president obama and the economy? that's the power of human resources. the...
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campaign events for mitt romney and the president. we're taking a peek right now. president obama will speak at this campaign event at george mason university there in fairfax, virginia. mitt romney is going to be in avingdon later as well. our power panel. america hiring now. what it means for the presidential race and what are the stakes for the big debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan? >>> and wooing the vets out there. why the president who killed bin laden is struggling with that voting bloc? i get the opportunity to talk with the man enlisted to get vets to switch sides, the vice president's son, beau biden. is 7.8% unemployment the real october surprise? we want to know what you think about that. tweet me or find me on facebook, thoma thomasarobertsmsnbc. and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's bor
campaign events for mitt romney and the president. we're taking a peek right now. president obama will speak at this campaign event at george mason university there in fairfax, virginia. mitt romney is going to be in avingdon later as well. our power panel. america hiring now. what it means for the presidential race and what are the stakes for the big debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan? >>> and wooing the vets out there. why the president who killed bin...
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right now, i want to bring in ann marie hauser, a romney campaign surrogate and former communications director for governor tim pawlenty's presidential campaign. thank you so much for joining us. you know, the president raised a whole lot, actually, an astounding amount, in just september. you know, and after the debate, observers say he seemed energized at these rallies. do you expect to see a different president obama putting a different foot forward after that debate last week? >> it's no surprise that barack obama raised this much money. we knew they was going to raise this much money all along. in 2004, john kerry out-raised president bush, and we all know how that turned out. so i think, you know, yes, he raised a lot of money. the president, or, excuse me, governor romney has raised $12 million since wednesday. so it's been a shot in the arm for the romney campaign too. >> and that's online as well. >> it's 60% -- >> we're not talking about major donors. we're talking about people who saw his debate and liked what they saw. >> 60% of them are new donors. so i think the romney c
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in a bipartisan way. >> right. >> so is that it? it's really just about who he's dealing with and what kind of deals are open there to be struck? >> i wouldn't -- i mean, the mitt romney we saw on wednesday is not the mitt romney we've been seeing on this campaign trail, at all. and you know, the idea that he is going to go to washington and reach across the aisle, there's a congress there that doesn't want to reach across the aisle. they want hip, if he gets elected, to do what they say. and on top of that, he didn't mention his name, but paul ryan would be his vice president. paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59-point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far and away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that much. it's way more than 59 points. maggie, in wednesday's debate, one thing i think has been a little bit conflated here, d
in a bipartisan way. >> right. >> so is that it? it's really just about who he's dealing with and what kind of deals are open there to be struck? >> i wouldn't -- i mean, the mitt romney we saw on wednesday is not the mitt romney we've been seeing on this campaign trail, at all. and you know, the idea that he is going to go to washington and reach across the aisle, there's a congress there that doesn't want to reach across the aisle. they want hip, if he gets elected, to do...
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mitt romney during the debates takes out something from his pocket right before the debates. they're not supposed to have notes. look at it in slow motion. here comes mitt romney. i will be taking something out of my pocket. oh what is that? oh that's a nice little mystery. you know what we're going to do? we're going to be mean. we'll do that story later in the show. you have to stay around a little while to find out what that is number did he cheat? we'll have evidence of that as well and you'll see which direction it goes. now the debates, a lot of people including us, think that mitt romney won. did it move some of the numbers? some of the numbers. in favorability ratings president obama is where he was 56% and above mitt romney. but mitt romney has risen above 50% for the first time. he's at 51%. it obviously helped romney a little bit although it didn't hurt the president as much. when you look at the national polls president obama was up by seven points. he's now up by five points. he has lost two points in that poll. it's not a huge difference but a little bit of a mo
mitt romney during the debates takes out something from his pocket right before the debates. they're not supposed to have notes. look at it in slow motion. here comes mitt romney. i will be taking something out of my pocket. oh what is that? oh that's a nice little mystery. you know what we're going to do? we're going to be mean. we'll do that story later in the show. you have to stay around a little while to find out what that is number did he cheat? we'll have evidence of that as well and...
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we'll be right back. >>> look at mitt romney's stunning 180 on this. >> all right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name it. it's an entitlement. and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. >> last night, two and a half weeks after that tape surfaced, government romney went on fox news where he was asked how he would have answered if the tape had come up in wednesday's debate. here's part of his answer. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. >> he said "completely wrong." that's completely weird namely because the night the tape aired, mr. romney rushed to a microphone to defend his 47% remarks. he kept defending them and hounded supporters for days after that. >> it'
we'll be right back. >>> look at mitt romney's stunning 180 on this. >> all right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name it. it's an entitlement. and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. >> last night, two and a half weeks after that tape...
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megyn: that's right. they came out and said we didn't have any involvement in it, which is what the obama camp came out and said after the super pac. remember the cancer ad suggesting that mitt romney had killed off a woman. >> instead, stephanie cutter was caught in a flat out lie surrounding mitt romney gave my wife cancer commercial. stephanie cutter was in the middle of that and she was exposed as a liar at that time. she is one of the lead distractors at this point. they are trying to change the subject from the president's disastrous performance and perhaps understandably, in the debate the other night, but to pretend that mitt romney should, in any way, comment on a piece of videotape from an event that was open to the press, where the president is exposed as a liar and a fraud or in incumbent fraud was trying to polarize along the lines of race is laughable on the face of it. it would be laughable if it weren't so outrageous. but they are trying to settle the romney campaign with troppo partisan i
megyn: that's right. they came out and said we didn't have any involvement in it, which is what the obama camp came out and said after the super pac. remember the cancer ad suggesting that mitt romney had killed off a woman. >> instead, stephanie cutter was caught in a flat out lie surrounding mitt romney gave my wife cancer commercial. stephanie cutter was in the middle of that and she was exposed as a liar at that time. she is one of the lead distractors at this point. they are trying...
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you know, that feels about right. it helped romney but we're just in the second inning of a long, long ball game. >> when it gets to the foreign policy debate which is the last one, lots to discuss there, obviously, syria, also libya with ambassador stevens. but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of small bore. this is not something the president is deciding on, the security in benghazi. i think that also, while obama has his failures in foreign policy, they are not ones that romney can easily pick up on. >> he could always, i would knowledge ma, imagine, in a debate turn on
you know, that feels about right. it helped romney but we're just in the second inning of a long, long ball game. >> when it gets to the foreign policy debate which is the last one, lots to discuss there, obviously, syria, also libya with ambassador stevens. but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on...
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mitt romney says that is not the right assumption. if i cut taxes across the board and more money into piedmont acre pockets and spend more and have a lower tax rate and have more jobs and more own. >> stimulate the economy. >> and more money will come in. >> that is where the disagreement was. >> mitt romney does have some plans for cutting loopholes and some of these -- >> right. . he says we cut taxes and close loopholes and it becomes revenue neutral and president cited another studying saying you have to raise taxes on the middle class. that is why this becomes so hard to fact check one of these because they are both sort of saying things that are kind of true. >> let's switch to jobs. this doesn't have to do with the debate necessarily last night but it's critical. we have the big monthly jobs report tomorrow and we have some indicators -- >> two indicators. one is the adp a private sector report which historically has given you what is going on two days later and showed a big bump in private sector growth. the last couple of mo
mitt romney says that is not the right assumption. if i cut taxes across the board and more money into piedmont acre pockets and spend more and have a lower tax rate and have more jobs and more own. >> stimulate the economy. >> and more money will come in. >> that is where the disagreement was. >> mitt romney does have some plans for cutting loopholes and some of these -- >> right. . he says we cut taxes and close loopholes and it becomes revenue neutral and...
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and bad news for mitt romney, and his conspiracy-minded supporters on the republican right. more on that in a moment. according to the bureau of labor statistics, unemployment dropped to 7.8% last month down .3 of a percent since august. employers added 114,000 new jobs. including 104 in the private sector and 10,000 in the public sector which had seen months of steady decline. in july's number revised to 181,000 with an additional 40,000 new jobs. president obama shared the news with a cheering crowd at a campaign appearance in fairfax virginia. >> obama: this morning we found out that the unemployment rate had fallen to its lowest level since i office. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> eliot: not if you're mitt romney. the g.o.p. contender talked down the jobs numbers and the economy at an abingdon, virginia, rally. >> romney: there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month. the unemployment rate as you noted this y
and bad news for mitt romney, and his conspiracy-minded supporters on the republican right. more on that in a moment. according to the bureau of labor statistics, unemployment dropped to 7.8% last month down .3 of a percent since august. employers added 114,000 new jobs. including 104 in the private sector and 10,000 in the public sector which had seen months of steady decline. in july's number revised to 181,000 with an additional 40,000 new jobs. president obama shared the news with a...
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romney very clearly pulls something from his right pocket and he pops it on to the podium in front of him. violation. violation. according to the conspiracy, complete with the grainy, slow mo youtube videos, this is mr. romney cheating. now he must have been working from note cards the entire debate. the explanation from the romney campaign is mr. romney was not pulling notes out of his pocket. he was pulling out of his pocket a handkerchief. sure enough, a little later on, oop, in the debate mr. romney is seen wiping his nose with said handkerchief. so whether you are persuaded by mitt romney wiping his nose on what is supposed to be his crib sheet notes, if you're on the left, again, like this is a conspiracy theory that just does not help. president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? ho
romney very clearly pulls something from his right pocket and he pops it on to the podium in front of him. violation. violation. according to the conspiracy, complete with the grainy, slow mo youtube videos, this is mr. romney cheating. now he must have been working from note cards the entire debate. the explanation from the romney campaign is mr. romney was not pulling notes out of his pocket. he was pulling out of his pocket a handkerchief. sure enough, a little later on, oop, in the debate...
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. >> roll right over alex. >> whoa. >> the washington of romney rolled over the moderator last night? the thing about -- i came to first because i had writ ain't piece for the "new york" magazine, how to act human, giving romney advice. since then i've tried to pursue him, but that's not easy. he's elusive. >> yes. >> he keeps recasting himself, recasting himself. i've tried to flail it down. before last night's event i had come to the conclusion i finally had typecast him, because he can't play a character role, he's not a good enough actor. this is a conclusion i came to. that he is that boss who makes lame jokes at which we are compelled to laugh at peril of our jobs. >> yes. >> and -- >> i don't know any bosses like that. >> last night he more or less erased that image with the significant cooperation of the president, he presented a brand-new, as you said, and different romney relishing the occasion, filled with facts, right or wrong, true or false, but filled with them, and delivered with great conviction and with energy. unfortunately for the democratic campaign, another presid
. >> roll right over alex. >> whoa. >> the washington of romney rolled over the moderator last night? the thing about -- i came to first because i had writ ain't piece for the "new york" magazine, how to act human, giving romney advice. since then i've tried to pursue him, but that's not easy. he's elusive. >> yes. >> he keeps recasting himself, recasting himself. i've tried to flail it down. before last night's event i had come to the conclusion i...
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right romney has got to sort of make the case that we're not going to rip everything out by the roots. which is of course what some in this space do want to have happen. but i'm going to create a better recovery. a faster recovery. so i think that's what the 8% means, right? it means he's got to be more nuanced in that argument. where the president can sit there and make the same case -- do you really want to start over? >> there's another point that for the wealthy, life has been pretty good over the last several years, the stock market has doubled, ceo pay is way up. the long-term unemployed, and those jobs that were lost under the bush administration, that president obama has restored in manufacturing and the like, the key number for them is, who do i trust. to take my long-term unemployment needs, my middle class families' needs, to the next level. so i think that the combination of people just trusting president obama more, if you're middle class, and that he has delivered on what he said he would in terms of getting us out of this hole -- >> murphy doesn't buy that. >> is a powe
right romney has got to sort of make the case that we're not going to rip everything out by the roots. which is of course what some in this space do want to have happen. but i'm going to create a better recovery. a faster recovery. so i think that's what the 8% means, right? it means he's got to be more nuanced in that argument. where the president can sit there and make the same case -- do you really want to start over? >> there's another point that for the wealthy, life has been pretty...
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there is a noise exception right now as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [applause] revi >> welcome to you both. let's start with the economy, a segment one. let's start with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes to start. mr. president, you will go first. >> i want to thank the university of denver for your hospitality. 20 years ago, i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. so i just want to wish, sweetie, you have the anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. [laughter] four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost. the auto industry was on the brink of collapse. the financial system had frozen up. because of the resilience and determination of the american people, we began to fight our way back. over the last 30 months, we have seen 5 million jobs in the budget we have seen 5 million jobs crea
there is a noise exception right now as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [applause] revi >> welcome to you both. let's start with the economy, a segment one. let's start with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes to start. mr. president, you will go first. >> i want to thank the university of denver for your hospitality. 20 years ago, i became the luckiest man on earth because...
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right now we're rooting for mitt romney. should mitt romney become president of the united states, watch out. conservatives are watching him very closely. but for now he's their only horse and they got to ride him. >> so many of them don't like -- they hate the president of the united states, so they're willing to stomach some of the more moderate positions. >> absolutely. don't forget, for many of them mitt romney was not their first choice. but right now he's their only choice unless it's president obama. and given that, they'll take mitt romney. >> gloria borger, thanks very much for joining us. jack welsh, former head of general electric calls the new unemployment rate unbelievable. thinks the numbers were manipulated. you're going to hear what the former white house chief economist is saying about that. here's just part of what he has to say. >> jack, i love you, but on this one you've just flat out lost your mind. everyone has goals. take the steps to reach yours, with us with real advice, for real goals. the us bank w
right now we're rooting for mitt romney. should mitt romney become president of the united states, watch out. conservatives are watching him very closely. but for now he's their only horse and they got to ride him. >> so many of them don't like -- they hate the president of the united states, so they're willing to stomach some of the more moderate positions. >> absolutely. don't forget, for many of them mitt romney was not their first choice. but right now he's their only choice...
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he will go right at romney. this is going to be an entirely different -- >> i think that's right. one of the other question, will we see a different kind of moderation? this was a brand-new format where jim leer he wanted to get out of the way and said he was effective in doing that. do you agree. >> i completely agree. i thought jim lehrer was absolutely great and it was a relief. i didn't even know in advance that this agreement had been made that the way the moderator would moderate would be a little more laid back. this is what it was. jim lehrer is old school and a pro. he didn't think it was all about him. he department think it was about getting the camera on him. he didn't think it was about him being the anchor with the whip. you know what i mean? he would ask a question and he would let these two guys either challenge each other or not, either lean back or lean forward, either take issue or not. he left it up to them, that was great because they are the ones running for president, not the critics. >> liberals were because they know obama cannot perform under those circum
he will go right at romney. this is going to be an entirely different -- >> i think that's right. one of the other question, will we see a different kind of moderation? this was a brand-new format where jim leer he wanted to get out of the way and said he was effective in doing that. do you agree. >> i completely agree. i thought jim lehrer was absolutely great and it was a relief. i didn't even know in advance that this agreement had been made that the way the moderator would...
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lew, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that anymore. on top of that, the president can say he's created over a million private sector jobs, so he has some new powerful rhetorical arrows that are in his quiver. >> when i saw this today, i thought this fits perfectly into this narrative of a country that's divided because it's a little bit good news. not a lot, and it leaves everybody with room to argue. >> symbolically, it was a victory for the white house to get that unemployment rate under 8% along with just about everybody else. i predicted that would be the key to obama winning re-election, but objectively, if you look at the numbers, there are some real problems with the number of people who have dropped out of the labor force f. you're comparing it to reagan, morning in america, you compar
lew, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that anymore. on top of that, the president can say he's created over a million private sector jobs, so he has some new powerful rhetorical arrows that are in his quiver. >> when i saw this today, i thought this...
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. >> probably right. >> see you before your flight again. thank you very much. >>> in today's one-minute playback, jimmy fallon providing a satiric al view on the debate playing mitt romney. >> make sure we get a chance to -- >> we should just, shut your yapper a little bit. >> all right, and i respect that the governor -- >> jeb -- do us all a favor and just zhhhh. we don't need you. >> i think that's a little -- >> that's a little -- just leave and do whatever you want. okay? >> i'm the moderator here. >> i'm going to have to ask you to stop talking. okay. jeb, i -- >> now, listen, i -- >> okay. >> ah -- >> oh -- >> yeah. >> i'll tell you -- i know what. >> ah. >> i -- >> jjjjjjj. na. >> that's just a noise. >> jeb, jeb, jeb, would you shut the [ bleep ] up! [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's ea
. >> probably right. >> see you before your flight again. thank you very much. >>> in today's one-minute playback, jimmy fallon providing a satiric al view on the debate playing mitt romney. >> make sure we get a chance to -- >> we should just, shut your yapper a little bit. >> all right, and i respect that the governor -- >> jeb -- do us all a favor and just zhhhh. we don't need you. >> i think that's a little -- >> that's a little --...
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wait a second, romney rooip, romney, ryan. there we go. all right. that's great. >> oh sweet jesus. >> eliot: i don't think he is real. i think he is a computer. rich, chewy caramel rolled up in smooth milk chocolate. don't forget about that payroll meeting. rolo.get your smooth on. also in minis. >> eliot: in a climate where your i don't knows and worker rights have been under attack the teacher's strike resulted in significant gains for teachers and the educational reforms they support. in president of the american federation of teachers, the chicago teachers' national union, wrote and i quote . . . weingarten, the president of the american federation of teachers, the chicago teachers' national union. randi, thank for joining us. >> it's always great to be with you, eliot. >> eliot: thank you. you did reform late the education conversation with the strike. explain what you wanted to do and what you think you accomplished? >> no one wants a strike, and a strike is to be avoided virtually at all costs. no one goes into a strike willingly. but what ha
wait a second, romney rooip, romney, ryan. there we go. all right. that's great. >> oh sweet jesus. >> eliot: i don't think he is real. i think he is a computer. rich, chewy caramel rolled up in smooth milk chocolate. don't forget about that payroll meeting. rolo.get your smooth on. also in minis. >> eliot: in a climate where your i don't knows and worker rights have been under attack the teacher's strike resulted in significant gains for teachers and the educational reforms...
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that's a lie, too, right? why don't you call mitt romney out on that? >> because mitt romney is thinking about a plan which would lower regulations, which would change the tax, which would drive an energy policy that's very aggressive. i don't know if he's going to get 12. i'm not a romney surrogate. i'm not in the campaign. i have never talked to the campaign. i have nothing to do with romney. i just believe this number should not determine the outcome of the presidential election. did you see today -- >> i agree with you. jack, you're a hero to business people in this country. you're a hero to all sorts of people. just do it now. do it. i can go back to loving you and you can go back to loving me. just do it now and say it's not right what you said. nobody cooked the books. you don't truly believe that, do you? >> i said i should have put a question mark at the back of it. >> would you argue that you were being provocative and had you put a question mark it would have been seen as more of a provocative statement rather than factual -- >> it would have
that's a lie, too, right? why don't you call mitt romney out on that? >> because mitt romney is thinking about a plan which would lower regulations, which would change the tax, which would drive an energy policy that's very aggressive. i don't know if he's going to get 12. i'm not a romney surrogate. i'm not in the campaign. i have never talked to the campaign. i have nothing to do with romney. i just believe this number should not determine the outcome of the presidential election. did...
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being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this is where i dissent from everyone that this is automatically an obama event. if the romney people -- which they have not-- the romney campaign hasn't got know any better than it has been, which is terrible. romney was really good. but the question they need to push on the president is, he didn't make these charges in the last debate, face it face. if they go after that and his advertising and force him to do it and it was a lot of people who don't like those kinds of attacks, the president's going to have problems this. vice-presidential debate, i am telling you, ryan will not make this about medicare, but go after joe biden and president obama about foreign policy and libya and put them on the defensive, that's a good move. >> sean: and the economy. he has to go after the economy -- [overlapping dialogue] >> the economy, too-- >>> plus i. the key issue that wasn't discuss in the debate were g
being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this is where i dissent from everyone that this is automatically an obama event. if the romney people -- which they have not-- the romney campaign hasn't got know any better than it has been, which is terrible. romney was really good. but the question they need to push on the president is, he didn't make these charges in the last debate, face it face. if they go after that and...
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a lot of people are going to be watching given the last debate and he needs to go right at governor romney and completely destroy this notion that reinventing himself, let alone introducing and proposing the same policies are going to create a different outcome. he can definitely do that. we've seen that. >> right wing conservative talking points dying on this friday in october. chris kofinis, good to have you with us tonight. thank you so much. >>> coming up workers at an ohio coal mine. they were forced to attend a romney event without pay. you know what, folks? that's not all. find out what else employees of a major energy company were forced to do. >>> and 17 days after his 47% remark romney says, ah, he was wrong. and there's something very curious about all of this and we'll explain. stay tuned. we're coming right back on "the ed show." >>> by the way, i like coal. i'm going to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed by your policies. >> that was mitt romney attacking the industry and declaring his love for the coal ind
a lot of people are going to be watching given the last debate and he needs to go right at governor romney and completely destroy this notion that reinventing himself, let alone introducing and proposing the same policies are going to create a different outcome. he can definitely do that. we've seen that. >> right wing conservative talking points dying on this friday in october. chris kofinis, good to have you with us tonight. thank you so much. >>> coming up workers at an ohio...